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A EXPLANATION FROM GUINNESS...

Hello Everyone,

I haven't written blog for a while and one of the main reason why is that after Blenheim and the World Record attempt I was waiting for my response from Guinness World Records (GWR) as to whether my World Record would be allowed to stand. Well, yesterday I got my answer from GWR and like the whole GWR experience it was less than satisfactory.

As you might know, when applying to GWR for the attempt at the beginning they mentioned a target of 10 full spring triathlons or 30 disciplines inside of the 12hrs. this was always going to be virtually impossible at Blenheim due to the tough course but we hoped that should I try my best they would recognise it and allow the record to stand for someone to come along and break it.

After Blenheim I collated and submitted all the my video and photographic evidence, my times, my witness statements etc. I sent it away and after 2+ months of waiting this is what I received from GWR...

"Dear John Brame

Thank you for sending us the evidence of your record attempt for Most sprint triathlons completed in 12 hours. We have now looked into your evidence pack in detail, and we are sorry to inform you that we are unable to approve your record. Unfortunately your application has failed to break the current record which stands at N/A and is held by N/A. Whilst we fully appreciate that this is not the decision you were hoping for, we trust that you will understand our position. However, if you have any further record proposals please do make another application, we would be delighted to hear from you again.

Once again thank you for contacting Guinness World Records.

Kind regards

Records Management Team at Guinness World Records"

To say I was disappointed was an understatement so I after a quick rant on twitter I got back in touch with GWR and asked why can my record not stand if there is no record that currently exists and what/who is 'N/A' supposed to mean?

GWR did reply to me quickly, but mainly because of the twitter rant and the response that so many of your guys gave that was less than nice about what GWR had replied to me. In this latest reply they state that in looking into this record 'in depth' they have found someone, somewhere to have done 25 disciplines so they can't allow my record to stand.

Did this person do it as an official GWR attempt?

Did this person provide witness statements and evidence to prove his 25?

If it is a record that I have not beaten why is it not in the GWR book?

I am sure there are people out there (maybe even me) who can eat more Ferrero Rocher chocolates than the person who currently holds the World Record according to GWR, but if these are not registered or done through the correct, long winded way that GWR insist, the record according to GWR stays. So, unless this 25 discipline record was done 'officially' I can't see why thy won't allow my record to stand and put it out there for someone else to beat? 

If anyone doesn't agree with me then thats cool, and this is being written in the heat of the moment when I am disappointed, not for myself, but for the team at IMG who put in so much work to allow the attempt to happen at their event, for the team at Bloodwise who have supported all my silly 2016 challenges and for my amazing friends and family, many of whom lived the whole 12hr experience with me.

I am going to tweet this, make sure if you retweet it add the @GWR tag so they can read it to, and we can either get the 25 discipline attempt in the GWR book for someone to beat, or my 21 discipline attempt in the book for someone to beat, either way this record SHOULD exist!

Thank you for reading and see you all soon for a less frustrated blog post!

John

My VERY disappointing experience with Guinness World Records so far..... (Part One)

I wanted to ask the question....

"When did the Guinness World Records become only about making money and not about celebrating the amazing achievements of people and raising money for charity?"

My journey with GWR started back in October/November 2015 when I had the idea to attempt to set a World Record as a personal challenge to raise money for charity.

I have never raised money for charity before because I had never felt people would want to sponsor me for something unless it was something special and something that people would consider a real test of my mental and physical ability based on my background in sport.

I went away and did my research and after seeing some of the very odd and very silly records that currently stand, I thought my plan for the 'Most Sprint Triathlons in 12hrs and 24hrs' would definitely be something that people would be keen to support me and I never thought  passing it with GWR would be an issue.

The application process with GWR was quite simple, all automated through their website. The first thing that amazed me was the application wait time of 3 months but that just shows how many applications they must receive. I was however surprised that you could opt for a fast track option which costs £450 +VAT. This was my first disappointment, although I am on a deadline and fast tracking my application would allow me more time to plan and more time to fundraise, how could I justify spending this money if 1) it comes out of money that could go to charity or 2) out of my own pocket when the answer from GWR could be 'no' and I've just wasted £450 +VAT!! The fact that they state prices '+VAT' suggests that their target audience for fast tracking applications is corporates who £450 is a small fee and they can claim the VAT back. They don't seem to have considered individuals, like myself, taking time to attempt these records, who are not doing it for financial gain, to raise money for charity and are dictated by a specific event deadline and could genuinely use a fast track service to make the most of their precious time!

Anyway, I waited and waited and it was a long 10-12 weeks but I got my response.....

"Your application has been rejected"

I was gutted and considering the record I was applying for didn't exist, I couldn't see they had just rejected it? I didn't give up, I started communication, via their website as you talk to a human being at GWR, and sent an email asking why. Like with the application process they ask for up to 2 weeks to reply to any correspondence!!!!! This is going to be a looooonnnngggg process!

I have added a few images of current GWR certificates that I have found on the internet. It makes me wonder if I should have looked at slightly different challenges. 

I think I could have been quite good at eating Ferrero Rocher chocolates, I don't think training for Wii Fit Hula Hooping would be a lot easier, and warmer than what I am currently doing! 

I don't want to demean the challenges of the people that earned these certificates, but I wonder if they went through so much to get their record accepted????

I hate writing posts like this as I sound so negative, and that is not me.

All I want to do is challenge myself to do something(s) special and in doing that raise money for worthy causes and charities. If I can help those brands, and businesses that sponsor and support me by offering them a little coverage for my efforts that is great, but Guinness don't get that and I would like to know why?

The next part gets even more ridiculous so come back soon for the second instalment of this frustrating episode.

Good and F#@king bad!

I am not sure I am using this blog correctly because I only seem to write negative words and use it to vent my frustration at things.

I am afraid this entry comes with more frustration and in some cases anger, but I will try to find some positives in my words and hope I don't come across too badly?

I wanted to write today because I have had a strange day, a day that at 7pm required me going out for a 15km run to clear my head and let off some steam, something that really isn't me! I don't think there was any one thing that caused me to 'need' tonights run, but a combination of things which include...

1) Guiness World Records - F#@king bad!

Yes they haven't been too helpful and the final straw from them was when we asked about using the GWR logo. Do you know that you are expected to pay £1500 +VAT per week or £4000 +VAT per month if you want to use the Guinness World Record logo! they tried to justify this price which a lovely PDF presentation showcasing all the multi-national businesses that can easily afford this money to promote records that help sell them product and promote their brand, but who or what do they think I am? #DaylightRobbery

2) Fundraising - F#@king bad!

I have always liked the thought of doing something that raised money for a charity and helping people. I never thought it would be this hard. I knew I had to do something hard enough to make sure people were happy to sponsor me and in my challenges I thought I had. I would also think I had based on how many people have told me how tough they think it will be, how crazy I am, how I fit in the training around work etc. So, after all these comments why have I such a pathetic amount of money raised? What do I have to do to get people to sponsor me for the challenges I am attempting? #WhatDoIHaveToDo

3) Timing the Blenhiem World Record attempt F#@king bad!

I had a phone call last week from the organisers of the Blenhiem triathlon., who have been amazing in the planning of the record attempt. They unfortunately had some bad news for me. They informed me that the people who do the timing for their event had asked for over £1500 to time my record. So, they want an extra amount of money to start a little earlier and work a little later for someone who is just raising money for charity! Everyone seems to want money from me when all I am trying to do is raise money to 'give' to an amazing cause! #ItsForCharity

4) Training - Good and F#@king bad!

The training is going well. The only problem I do have is I need more hours in the day. I currently am working harder than I have ever worked with RG Active, RGMM and QSW all growing nicely, but this requires 16-20 hour days and more stress than I have ever dealt with. Right now training is my escape, its the only alone time I get and it acts well as a de-stresser, but then the pressure of performance for the challenges doesn't always help with the de-stressing, I was told this week that my social media posts suggest I am finding the training easy... WRONG! I just don't like posting pictures where I look like shit, but maybe thats what I have to do, maybe it will help with getting people to fundraise? #ItsHarderThanItLooks

5) Thank you - Good

There has to be some good doesn't there? Well the good stuff comes in the form of family, friends and sponsors. My partner Marsha is my rock, my boys Taylor and Mason are always there for me and help keep me well and truly routed on the ground, and my Mum Carole who works her butt off to help make the businesses keep ticking and as always is there to support my efforts. Then we have my friends, they help out, they support me and they advise me. The sponsors have to be mentioned, they continue to supply me with product and equipment that makes the training and the recovery that little easier and I love them all! #ThankYou

To mention the specific sponsors: Etixx, CEP, Rose bikes, HUUB, CurranZ, Bolle, Altra.  

Believe it or not, I am feeling a little better after writing this. So, I am going to go to bed... it's 01:04am and I have packing for a training camp to do tomorrow along with a double run and a mountain of work and meetings to attend.

I hope this wasn't too negative and I hope to speak to you again soon,

John